Creation of a Belgium ruby devs manifesto

[toch]

Initially created by @borisrorsvort on rubycamp repo, the discussion should be done here.

As @toch started to investigate common rates and wages, I'd like to include it in a more general reflexion around working conditions.
The goal would be to collectively create a draft document that would gather things that we would here in Belgium consider the ideal work conditions.
Including wage rate range per seniority (also need to define seniority in context), working environment (office space, company culture, remote stuff, ...), perks, company structure & processes, tooling, community values, ...

It is not something that should be considered fixed as the job will evolve, but be regularly re-challenged.
In the creation of this document I see multiple objectives:

• prevent newbies to undervalue themselves and low rate jurisprudence for employer
• provide companies that can't pay much, ideas to remain attractive (perks, culture, tooling, ...)
• open the discussion about these subjects among us to raise solidarity and cohesion in the community

Any comments, re-scoping & frenchies are welcome obviously :)

ps: I expect it to be a little controversial but maybe we can still extract some great stuffs out of the discussion

@cimm's answer

Should we maybe start with a (anonymous) survey on the salaries / conditions / perks we have today? So we could make some statements as "the average Ruby dev in Belgium with 3 years experience earns €x / month with has a smartphone and laptop"?

[Bertg]

• Suggest changing noobs to newbies. Noobs has negative connotation.
• Suggest to use other word than "Manifesto" as this seems to be more of a "what can you expect" or "market knowledge" document.

[borisrorsvort]

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[borisrorsvort]

@Bertg I wouldnt say it's a "what can you expect" since it will be more of a claim. So more like "You should expect or ask for this"