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Expand Up @@ -217,3 +217,47 @@ Cross-referencing to other discussions:
* https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/issues/1397
* https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/17027
* https://github.com/rust-lang/unsafe-code-guidelines/issues/176

## Uninhabited `struct`s should all be ZSTs
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I think the name “ZST” does not capture the underlying idea very well. The real thing we want is a -∞ sized type, ZST is just one specific way of implementing it. Although I don’t have a better title yet.

Also, do you think it’s a good idea to also add the discussion of Inhabitted trait here? In case someone reading this come up with that idea again.

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The real thing we want is a -∞ sized type

That's not as clear as you'd think. Rust has unsafe, and types need a layout, so "a ZST with always-false validity invariant" actually has some important benefits. With a -∞ sized/aligned type you can't even start executing a function that has a ! variable in it because its whole stack frame would be uninhabited; yet it's easy to write such a function: just panic!().

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Size is a natural number, so a size of -∞ doesn't even make sense. (One could define notions of size where that does make sense, but that's not the discussion we are having here. The notion of size here is the notion currently used in Rust. Given the proposed resolution for this question, it's also not useful to consider these other notions of size.)

Therefore, ZST is exactly the right term here. There's no way a type can be smaller than that.


It makes conceptual sense that if something is uninhabited, it shouldn't take up any space.
In safe code that works great, but we tried it and ran into problems, so it's not likely to happen.

The biggest problem is related to field projection during initialization. Take this code:

```rust
pub fn make_pair<T0, T1>(a0: impl Fn() -> T0, a1: impl Fn() -> T1) -> Box<(T0, T1)> {
let mut mu = Box::<(T0, T1)>::new_uninit();
unsafe {
let p0 = &raw mut (*mu.as_mut_ptr()).0;
p0.write(a0());

let p1 = &raw mut (*mu.as_mut_ptr()).1;
p1.write(a1());

mu.assume_init()
}
}
```

Is that *sound*? It sure looks reasonable -- after all, it initialized both the fields -- but
it depends on exactly what the layout rules are.

(Aside: Note that a production-ready version of that function should also handle unwinding cleanup
of the first value if constructing the second panicked, but for simplicity of presentation we're
ignoring that part here because leaking is still *sound*.)

For something simple like `make_pair::<u8, i32>`, it's clearly fine. But with `make_pair::<u32, !>`
it's *only* sound if we *don't* let `(u32, !)` become a ZST. We need the allocation for the box
to be large enough to write that `u32` without being an obviously-UB out-of-bounds write.

Thus if we wanted to always have uninhabited product types be ZSTs, we'd need to give up on certain
other rules, perhaps the one that `T` and `MaybeUninit<T>` always have the same size. So far, the
simpler, less-error-prone experience for writing unsafe code has won out over the minimal space
savings possible from shrinking the types. After all, while it's not necessarily fully unreachable,
as something like `make_pair(|| a, || loop { … })` would still need to allocate the space despite
that never reaching the `assume_init` part, it's still unlikely that this occurs frequently.

There *is* still interest in maybe doing optimizations like this on *sum* types, however. There's more
to potentially be gained there since one variant of an `enum` being uninhabited doesn't
keep the whole *value* from being uninhabited the way an uninhabited field does in a `struct`.
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I think this might be a typo?

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keep the whole *value* from being uninhabited the way an uninhabited field does in a `struct`.
keep the whole *value* from being inhabited, the way an uninhabited field does in a `struct`.